Approved Minutes

Wilber School Redevelopment Committee

January 5, 2005

Town Library, Lower Level Conference Room

 

Attendees: Jim Goldsmith (Chair), Michael Baskin, David DePree, Craig Edwards, Jim Glaser, David Gordon, Marilyn Kahn, Marcia Liebman, Bob Levin, and Joel Tran

 

Guest: Bob Goldberg

 

The meeting was called to order by Jim Goldsmith at 8:00 PM.

 

In his opening comments, Jim noted that Jane Desberg was unable to attend the meeting as she is out of town; the committee will ask her to attend a future meeting.  Also, Jim noted that Ken Michel will be asked to attend the next meeting to discuss tax credit issues.  Finally, Jim asked the committee to discuss what he called "the Gordon framework," ideas that David Gordon had suggested for creating four sub-committees to help the committee reach its goals before the spring Town Meeting.

 

The minutes of the 12/16/04 meeting were accepted with a minor amendment -- namely, that the committee would be seeking input developers, neighboring residents, and the community-at-large (in addition to input from the Selectmen, the Planning Board, and the Housing Board).

 

Discussion of Warrant: Jim Goldsmith said he would urge the committee to include in any Warrant article three items: a recommendation that the town abates the Wilber School building immediately; a request for re-zoning to allow certain uses (e.g., retail) "within certain confines;" and that an RFP should be issued by the Selectmen.  On the last point, there was some discussion about whether the committee should be developing the concepts for the RFP or whether "that would be putting the cart before the horse."  It was noted in this context that zoning changes "for use" would need to go before the Town Meeting, not the Planning Board, and that tax credits can be used for rental units, not condos.

 

Memo from Peter O'Cain: It was noted that the site can support approximately 56,000 gallons per day of effluent, and that a one-bedroom apartment would generate an average of 110 gallons per day.  While it would appear that there are plenty of soils between the property and the nearest town wells to "filter out" the plume effluent, no engineering studies have been done to confirm this.  A proposal now pending before Citizens' Housing and Planning Association (CHAPA) in Boston is a request for funds to support such a study.  The committee was asked to think seriously about water protection issues, including the rising level of nitrates in local water.  There may be a need for an enhanced waste disposal system at the Wilber School site.

 

Discussion of Mixed-Use Issues: The committee discussed the importance of tax credits for any residential portion of an overall project; indeed, it was asserted that "the only way for a developer to make money" on a mixed-use project on the scale of the Wilber would be with applied tax credits.  The committee also reviewed sample figures for "affordable" and "market" rate apartments, based on a project off of Route 1 in Walpole (affordable: one-bedroom -- $834 per month, two-bedroom -- $992 per month, three-bedroom -- $1,144 per month; market: one-bedroom -- $1,300 per month, two-bedroom -- $1,500 per month, three-bedroom -- $1,650 per month).  Figures similar to these could be used to estimate the rents likely to be charged on any apartments developed at the Wilber.  There was some concern expressed about the viability of retail establishments at the Wilber site, given that retail businesses tend to "turn" every 3-5 years.

 

Discussion of Possible Mixed-Use Models: One possible model for the Wilber building could include commercial/residential uses on the ground floor and residential units (supported by tax credits) on the second floor.  It was noted that it would be "very tough" for a developer to "make municipal space work" in a redeveloped Wilber building.  For that reason, it was suggested that space might be reserved elsewhere on the site (i.e., outside of the current building) for future development as municipal and/or library space.  The library would need a roughly 13,000 sq. ft. footprint on the site to construct a two-story building.  If the current library were coverted to use by the school system and, in turn, the current school administration building were sold for development, the resulting income stream might be able to support some of the costs of building a new library at the Wilber site.  Even then, the issue of parking will remain a concern.  Several comments suggested that retail establishments other than specialty shops would have a diffcult time surviving in a redevloped Wilber building due to traffic patterns (both pedestrian and car) through the center of Sharon.  The committee will ask developers for input on the question of what might be feasible in terms of a mixed-use project at the entire site.  It also was suggested that the committee invite a representative of Codman brokers to provide input on retail use issues.

 

Town-Developed vs. Privately-Developed Project: There was a brief discussion of the pro's and con's of either approach.  The committee decided to investigate this issue more closely, even though a town-developed project would not be able to take advantage of tax credits to offset the costs for developing rental units.

 

Task Groups: The committee agreed that setting up task groups was a good idea that could help the committee focus its efforts and produce a successful Warrant article for the May 2005 Town Meeting.  After some discussion, it was decided that the proposed Public Hearings and Public Relations task groups would be combined into a single task group and that a new group, a Feasibility Task Group, would be added to the list to examine technical issues related to construction and building on the site.

 

Volunteers for the four task groups were as follows:

  • Steering (Jim Goldsmith and David Gordon)
  • Community Outreach (Craig Edwards and Marilyn Kahn; also Melissa Mills had spoken previously with Jim Goldsmith about assisting with public relations matters)
  • Warrant (Jim Goldsmith and Marcia Liebman)
  • Feasibility (Joel Tran, Michael Baskin, and David DePree)

Follow-up Tasks: The sub-committees were asked to confer before 1/10/05.  Jim asked members to circulate questions to be posed to invited guests within the next week.  The committee will discuss the advisability of attending meetings convened by other committees vs. inviting representatives of those committees (e.g., Selecetmen, Planning Board, Finance Committee, and Town Engineering) to attend our meetings.  Bob Levin will check with Joel Wolk about the estimated costs of abatement assessment work.

 

Next Meetings: The full committee will meet on 1/10/05, 1/24/05, and 1/31/05.  The task groups will meet on 1/17/05.

 

Respectfully submitted,

David Gordon